Discussion in   Shard Updates   started     10 years ago   September 12, 2014, 11:39:18 AM   by   Kane

Shard Update September 12, 2014

Kane
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Topic :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:39:18 AM

Version 32
Treasure Maps: Being disturbed will no longer end the map digging.
Gold Panner: Cleaned up display text
Fishing: Text issue resolved
Tinker Dungeon: Items updated
Chat System: RP channel added
Chat System: Trivia channel added
Naruto Quest: Updated loot so it only drops on death and made it random.
Necklace of Genesis: Now has a random chance of +5 or +10, instead of just sword it can be any of the combat related skills.
Generic Quest Item: No stack message now only appears when they do not stack
Stealing: Added additional stealing checks
Evolution Coin: You can now combine multiple coins on the same account, just double click and target the other coin.
Apprentice Armor for Gargoyles Added (Agent Ish)

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#1 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:51:37 AM

So, previous incarnations of the Genesis Necklace have been nerfed?  It was nice that they offered such a skill increase (+30), it gave a good option to those stacking weapons skills, rather than just stacking magery.  Was the nerf to +10 on previous Necklaces intentional?

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#2 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 01:48:45 PM

The script I seen was +10.. so it was nerfed before I got to it from what I was looking at

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#3 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 04:23:18 PM

wow genisis took a square kick right to the skill.  It was +30 swords. 

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#4 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 04:31:49 PM

Looks like a refund will be in the asking..  Nerfing this was a bad bad idea..


Would of been fine had it not been a donation item. But I have 3 of these that
I purchased +10 swords not worth the 300ed I paid.


Such a shame. Its like going to the store and buying a game that says here is full access. Then 2 years later get slapped in the face with Ohhhh we changed our minds, we decided to screw you.  But thanks for your money.

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#5 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 07:00:47 PM

Yeah, maybe Kane got a hold of an outdated or different Genesis?  The one we all had clearly gave us +30 Sword skill, not +10.  At this rate, the Tactical Mask would be on par with the Genesis Necklace...hmmm...Tactical Mask for 100k, or Genesis Necklace for 300ED/Insanely hard to kill mob....

What hurts me, is the stacking of + Swordsmanship I had been gearing up and gathering, now neutered, because it is so much cheaper to gear up + Magery, and just use a Mage Weapon.

"The script I seen was +10.. so it was nerfed before I got to it from what I was looking at" Does this mean that there had been a mistake, and that Genesis Necklaces will go back to being the +30 they had been before this morning?

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#6 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 07:59:23 PM

Yea I am waiting to see if it get fixed.


If not then my 5 sockets +300 luck gen will be in the return to sender its broken box.

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#7 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 09:59:07 PM

I am wondering the same thing, will it be put back to our +30 Swordsmanship?

#8 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 10:16:29 PM

Im all for change dont get me wrong. But if this change were to stick then I would possibly consider taking everyones pre nerf gear and core setting it to its appropriate skill. So clothing with more then +10 on it should not exist even though i seen people with clothing wiht + 15 eval and such on aprons. All green tunics all red tunics should be nerfed. to its appropriate time and setting.  No one really wants these changes<< I wouldn't but its only the balanced, fair, logical response to such a nerf. I say we stick to this swords nerf only if we stick to our guns in everythign else, yet until that time when all can be nerfed in one big huge update.. id say leave the swords on the genesis alone. REgardless people donated for their genesis payed good money... if this were to stick then the concept of a world teleporter that everyone defends so much should recieve the same punishment.. reworking it to not be used while flagged. People donated for it just like the genesis.. wouldnt make a difference now if this change were to occur.. fits the perfect setting and time for it.. tis appropriate. Change is good but lets go all the way i say.

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#9 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 10:49:19 PM

Another sting is that there had been no mention (to my knowledge, and I check the forums daily) of a nerf to the Genny Necklace, just said that new ones would be functioning like the red/green tunics. 

"Necklace of Genesis: Now has a random chance of +5 or +10, instead of just sword it can be any of the combat related skills"

This quote is the only thing that said necklace of Genny would go to +5 or +10 Swords.  I'm assuming that Kane saw that Necklace of Genesis was only +10 Swordsmanship as the hidden skill, and not it's true value of +30.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the rumors of stat caps, but making it harder and harder to reach the cap isnt the answer here.

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#10 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 10:55:17 PM

=[ yep I have one too, 5 sockets of parry and blessed. undo this pls. we put a lot into a "final" item

I'm sure something will happen tho, rest looks awesome

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#11 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:12:22 PM

I dont think the nerf was intentional, im sure Kane will look at this in the morning


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#12 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:15:03 PM

^ See this is why the boss is the boss nuff said... cuz he takes care of us. SO no worries guys it will get fixed.

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#13 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:21:41 PM

Yea after reading this thread, I'll admit, new info (to me) popped up. I'm sure Kane will take another look at this and explain it further but the conversation is great.

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#14 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:36:55 PM

Yep had a convo with Kane about it tonight.


Was not intended.  So I stepped off my chair, lowered my staff and will bow down :)
Its getting fixed!!

#15 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 12, 2014, 11:52:28 PM

We can all understand the full head frustration of situations.. we are flawed :) we jump to conclusions so quickly... sometimes we need to take a step back catch a breath and discuss the topic slowly. Frustration sure can make ya jump quick though :)

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#16 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 13, 2014, 12:39:31 AM

Yea it's funny that a frustration brings someone to say something much more quickly than a complement of something/someone. For some reason we are wired to hate instead of congratulate. This isn't even geared towards anyone in particular, just something I see here and even in real life.

What we SHOULD focus on is the discussion and the REASONS why we believe something is unjust/wrong/right/etc. And great job on everyone and expressing their beliefs AND reasons. That's the mark of a great community. Just saying.

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#17 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 13, 2014, 05:21:37 AM

FYI prior to the revert, the gen necklace was nerfed to +10 sword.

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#18 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 13, 2014, 07:42:27 AM

This will be changed on friday...  There were 2 scripts in the directory and I grabbed the only one I knew (+10). 

If you knew the kind of week I had and this is my only mistake then we are doing good :)

Okay.. now I just got a bit of new info and not sure how it happened.  I also did not understand completely it would seem.

I did not mean to touch current items, never should of happened.  If everyone will just calm down for a moment and let me clean up my mess here. :)

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#19 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 13, 2014, 01:15:06 PM

Kane, I have a sudden urge to hug you.

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#20 Re :   Shard Update September 12, 2014
10 years ago  September 18, 2014, 11:45:56 PM

You are all doing a great job under a very difficult situation and I very well appreciated the effort as do all of us that are playing!! Keep up the excellent work and I hope to be playing more soon. School and responsibilities of being caretaker of my mom and daughter are taking there toll at the time but soon should be give in. (Daughter had a miscarriage of a child and my mom is a stroke survivor). 
Hope to see you back soon!