ScarletLace has a Scav Hunt this weekend, Saturday (25th) at 10am.  I hope everyone attends this should be fun.

Like to thank Worthless for talking me through some of the PvP issues with things updated today, some issues would of been missed if it wasn't for that.  I know there are a few who think I do not do anything but let me just say this, it is amazing what happens when you talk "with" someone versus talking "to" someone. 

I want to expand and add to resource gathering but I also need to clean up it up, I just started with Gold Panning and not done.  First round is clean up.. Lumberjacking and Mining are next.

Finally.  I am aware someone has a script that can get by the afk check. I already have 1 player but I want everyone to know.  If you code around the afk check I will consider it cheating.  Ask around for how I like cheaters and what I do with them.  There will be no discussion, no reason for you doing and no excuse.  Once I reach 100% certainty that you are cheating I will smoke you.


I did play with the numbers in Gold Panning and we are testing those numbers, they may need to be adjusted.  Relax, don't panic.. if you want to help test that is fine but just crying or complaining isn't going to help much.  Thanks



Version 173
AOS Updated: Added EvoAttributes (We reached the max of Properties that can be added for AOS and Armor)
BaseArmor Updated: Allows for EvoAttributes to be added (Only 1 is on the list and not available yet, dont ask)
Mortal Strike Updated: Cooldown code wasn't even there so there was never a delay.  Current cooldown time is 5 seconds + a Healing Skill Bonus from the mobile that has the mortal wound.
Enchanted Apple Updated: Can now eat an apple at 40 seconds but will cost you 30 mana, 120 is the same as before.  Now will remove Mortal Wounds
Domino's Deco Deeds Added: 13 new items
Purge Spell Note:  It is a second circle spell, I will not code for it to remove Mortal Wounds with all that it already does.  Balance Decision and a note for players.
Vortex Strike Augment Update: The summoned mobs should now vanish when the time expires
Gold Panning System Update: Now split between Felucca and not.  Better chance for higher nuggest in Fel.  In guarded areas you can only get small nuggets. (Over farming is known to happen).  It is called Gold Panning, not dredging.  No longer will work on boats.
Golden Chicken Updated: No longer endless instant eggs.

This update gives us more than one great step in an amazing direction.  AFK Gold Panning addressed and PvP Mortal Spam addressed, thank you for your diligence Kane.

I am really not even sure how to respond to that given some comments..

I am really not even sure how to respond to that given some comments..

Well, I don't have any idea about the changes in PvP system but I am sure it will balance it as we were hearing much about Mortal Strike lately...
I don't know why there are so many people (please do not take it personal, anyone) hating gold panners. It requires much effort to settle things, quite amount of investment for the gear and I think it is an awesome system to let relatively new players (or anyone else) to earn in here. It is open to anyone as well, every player can do it if they want. Personally, I do have 2 screens and I use an EasyUO script to goldpan (using scripts are not illegal as I know, fix me if it is please) & I watch my panner all the time though. Is there anything wrong with this? I am just curious. (These words are not related with the recent changes in gold panning, I am sure it will be better&balanced in time, like it always happens,  if we all get patient a bit)
Also, I mean no offense, if you ever know me a little you would guess my point, I am not trying to make it harder for anyone, just sharing my opinion.
Thanks.

I've been here long enough to see several changes to gold panning, and have known several more players who spend the majority of their time in game panning.  There's nothing wrong with that, to each their own, and as far as scripting it, I don't see a problem with that either...the problem comes when players skirt around the AFK gump and proceed to AFK macro gold panning.  When it can be done 24/7, with very minimal down time, it floods the shard, and it's inflation can be ugly for others.

Panning, sure.  Macro'n, okay.  AFK macroing gold panning...not cool.

I didn't mean exactly you though, been hearing people complaining about it.

Whom doing it afk 7/24, even passing through the afk gump should be punished for sure.

I pan in Trammel only.  Below is the data I collected in a 5 hour time. 

Levels: Fishing: 251  Begging: 120

The panning in towns worked as anticpated: received only small nuggets, 2 hours

Outside guard areas:  Around 3 hours before server lost connection.  138 small nuggets, 7 medium nuggets, 0 large nuggets.

Panning was done in non-guard areas I already had marked and new areas not marked.

Typical percentage of nuggets collected:  50% large, 48% small, 2% medium  (these figures based on memory from collecting day to day)

Hope this helps! 











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Ahh nice! Like Norton, Im glad you assisted in the issue of the moral strike ordeal. *cheers Kane*

Can we have a random Minatuar spawn for gold panners, to keep players on their toes?  *giggles*

Sage

Just a follow up like Mandy Bear, but with my own results.


Fishing: 194, Begging: 100, Luck(not sure if it matters): 3197
I did not keep track of the time it took but did keep track of the pans used.
I will get right down to the amounts of each item i received.


200 Gold Pan Uses used;


Large Nuggets: 9
Medium Nuggets: 19
Small Nuggets:  172


Fire Ruby: 3
Ecru Citrine: 2
Blue Diamond: 4
Turquoise: 1
Brilliant Amber: 1
White Pearl: 1
Perfect Emerald: 2
Crystalline Blackrock: 2
Dark Sapphire: 3


Message In a Bottle: 5




I will continue doing similar tests if it helps. If wanting different baselines, just let me know.

Thats all you got from using 200 pans!??!? Thats 20,000 times panning. Seems ridiculously low and not really worth the effort

I believe it was 200 uses. 9 + 19 + 172 = 200 uses. God have mercy if it was 200 pans lol

Ahhhhhh i get the comment now. I use the gold pan storage to hold my pans, so when you add them into the storage it turns them purely into uses. I can have 1 gold pan with 1 use or 20,000 uses.


Edited first post to reflect uses and not just Gold Pans

MY bad. Thanks for clarifying

Np, no ones bad Just wasn't stated from the get go!

Time from 10:33 server
Time to: 1:58 server

Trammel only.

Fishing skill: 251 with +60 fishing pole.  191 without pole. (Tried panning both ways today with and without my pole...seemed to be no difference)


All in fresh areas: 
241 small
25 medium
0 large

I've noticed on Fridays when we have updates in the early morning when the shard comes back up, I usually got less large nuggets and more smalls.  (This was before the tests for the last two days).  It usually took me another day for my ratios of large to small to go back to my normal haul.  I will test again tomorrow in fresh areas to see if I get any large nuggets as this is the only reason I can come up with not getting even one large nugget.  Currently, I frequently get the message "You pan for a while but fail to find any nuggets". 

When I first started panning this was the message I got when I came across a large nugget spot but my skill was not high enough to pull it up.  I confirmed this assumption later as I had marked those spots and when I finally started pulling up large nuggets and went back to those spots I found large nuggets present.

Another thing I tried: I removed all my fishing clothing and my pole, logged out of the game, restarted, hoping it might reset my panning to no effect.

What I'm also thinking of doing is building up my skills on another character to see if there's simply something wrong with my current one.

I'm frustrated but not defeated. 

1:30ish pm pacific Update: On a hunch, I braved Felucca just a few minutes ago and within 3 minutes I got 12 smalls, 2 mediums & 2 large nuggets!  Hopefully, this will break the spell I'm having in Trammel.  By the way, I was terrified!!!  I was sure a whole mob of reds were going to come along and make short work of my puny self and rightly so...I'm in their territory.  But lucky for me it was empty. 

Run 2:


Fishing: 204
Begging: 115
Luck: 2897
Time Elapsed: 1 hr. 41 min.


This is a mix of Tram/Fel same as last test.
200 Gold Pan Uses used;


Large Nuggets: 8
Medium Nuggets: 23
Small Nuggets:  169


Fire Ruby: 2
Ecru Citrine: 5
Blue Diamond: 3
Turquoise: 1
Brilliant Amber: 1
White Pearl: 1
Perfect Emerald: 2
Crystalline Blackrock: 4
Dark Sapphire: 2


Message In a Bottle: 1

Very happy with the changes. Thanks so much, Kane!

  I am proud of everyone who is engaging the situation with positive feedback.


  Change is often times hard, but only until you embrace it and make it your own. That is what I see a lot of you doing here in this thread. Good work I say!

 
  (evil grin) Now all Kane has to code in-- both tram and fel side-- are ambush red NPC's which might be called claim jumpers who come along and try to waylay gold panner's.


 Meh! Just a thought I had. Besides, if there isn't a risk, why should there be a reward... (shrugs)


  --Sturger--


 P.S. should these claim jumpers be tough enough, perhaps this isn't the first 'Claim' they have jumped.. and they are loaded with some small medium and large nuggets in addition to a few coins. Risk Vs. Reward...

Sturger---lol about the evil mobs!

I just wanted to say to, you, Kane: 

I was behind you and very happy to participate.  You are a very bright star that has guided and paid forward a unique, viable and enjoyable version of UO.  Be proud of your accomplishments.  My son codes and has tried to explain the process to me on occasion.  I just look at him politely and I think I'm nodding in the right places as if I understand what the heck he's talking about.  We are so lucky to have someone who is not only knowledgeable but has a impressive background in the field and is willing to try things to make it even more fun for us. 

Thank you!!!

Now I want a tee shirt reading "I survived Kane's Great Panning Experiment of 2017!"    hehe

Much love 

LOL claim jumpers I like that idea. But, please, I urge you to remember that most panners run around in cloth so we are not the toughest kids on the block
 I look forward to seeing more of these changes because the last couple of days have been fun. My results in trammel during the temporary patch were poor (Kane got all those). Still, it was a welcome change.
Need more books Kane? I got 'em!

I realize that Serra Lynn... that's precisely my point.


  Risk Vs. Reward...  where is the risk-- besides in Fel-- when you gold pan?


  Just my tow cents.