This was a monumental update that I have wanted to do for years.  I want to thank Kane for all his work on making a system that works and makes sense!  Changes are always disruptive, but this was an excellent upgrade and I hope everyone appreciates how awesome this upgrade really is!

The breeding system was changed due to all of the original scripting flaws. Players had unwittingly found every exploit possible and it was becoming a game breaker.

We have attempted to "fix" it many times over the last 2 years but it was inherently broken.

Every pet in game had unlimited breeding and could make as many overcapped pets as players wished.  We decided to sterilize all current pets, to stop the exploits and so we did not have to delete them from the shard before we added the new system. 

ONLY OVERCAPPED PETS had to be forced into complying with the current caps.
 
ONLY PETS THAT WERE EXTREMELY EXPLOITED and not reported or adjusted will be deleted.  The warning has been in effect for over 3 months, no excuse!

EVERY PET that was adjusted was an exploited pet! No need to complain or be upset, under the old rules they should have all been deleted anyway...

It was ruining the breeder market and was completely broken, so after the revert, we decided it was time to make the change.

Kane and I have been working on this new breeding system for the past 3 months. We planned the new scripts with all the elements for a balanced, logical and rewarding system in mind

The new system takes into account:

*Limited number of times a pet can breed, then the pet becomes sterile.  This prevents unlimited breeding and makes players seek new pets
*Limited breeding window during the pet life cycle.  This makes the ugency to breed timely
*New "prime" pets will be desirable.  Players will always be buying the new pets and selling the old ones, creating a dynamic breeder market
*The pets will be more powerful during their prime and diminish with old age, making a secondary market of selling "used" pets at a lesser price so new players can afford them.
*Players will no longer be able to "hoard" pets.  Breeding is now timely and you must now seek out other players to make prime pets
*Pets now get beat up and lose stats.  Now the repair system makes sense and creates a new market for crafting
*No more superpets, players will now have a reason to breed up many styles of new pets
*Balanced hit points to slot ratio
*Balanced power to slots ratio
*Donation pets will not be effected

I hope everyone embraces the new system and realizes the overall impact will help improve the shard long term and make the economy grow!
 
More details can be found here:
 
Wiki Breeding Info
http://uoevolution.com/wiki/index.php/Animal_Breeding#Pet_Breeding

DEVELOPMENT LOGS:
http://uoevolution.com/wiki/index.php/UOE_Development_Logs#Update_24_.28Breeding_System.29

  time to take a break NEVER Seen anything like this and I do not approve. Going to step away for a while in hopes that DANTE comes to his senses    VERY DISSAPPOINTED !!!
So are you mad that we stopped you from exploiting?  or do you really not like all the great features of the new system? the balance? the new market? fairness?
 

Also have lost 2 VERY long time players because of this im sorry I don't like loosing friends
Who did you specifically lose?  I will follow up with them and explain the new system and work with them if they are leaving because of the new system!

Well thats to bad you feel this way.

I think this breeding system needed to happen a long time ago. And with Kane it was finally done.  Thank you Kane and Dante!!

In my opinion, those who are leaving are the ones who exploited and took advantage of a broken system.  Now that it is fixed are all up set because you can't get away with over capped pets and the like.

Now the system is much more balanced. It now forces a market for those who want to be breeders! Those who want to put the work in will be on top of the food chain and have a business going. Those who are lazy and do not want to put forth the effort will just purchase.  And then have repeat customers when their pets break and need to be replaced.   I find it much easier to run a pet into the ground then call Joe and say hey I need 5 more fire steeds these guys are  done.  Joe sells me 5 new pets and off I go.. Thanks Joe.   
The market here is going to be amazing

Open your eyes and see the big picture here.

And besides in the end. Most will get gear and play without pets, or use pets as just a added bonus to dps.  Only newer players use them to survive while they wait on new gear.

Again thanks Staff awesome job!

Tyvm for the support

Your opinion is irrelevant and based on what you think you know, and you dont know anything about the mather at hand. What about those who had hundreds of pets, spent countless hours breeding, a shit load of tokens to bond all those pet and not to mention all the gold invested. So yeah, that update sucks, and it may sound good in the future but right now, a lot of players are finding themselves on the losing side, again.
FYI their opinion is not irrelivant, it is actually right on point!  You made over 100 overcap biopets. and yes I do acknowledge you worked hard and spent a tons of time and tokens, BUT you also profited huge on selling the bios...which you were warned and told not to make overcapped.  We have been clearly warning players for 3 months! You lost all of your exploited bios because you did not report them and have staff modify them before the new system was implemented.
 
This is exactly why we had to make a new system!

Looks like this keeps coming back to me for some reason.

First, i dont care if the pet system was changed, i never bred a single pet myself, its a friend of ours who lost hundred of pets, breeders, none were overcapped btw  Who is this mystery friend?
It doesnt matter who bred them/made them...you possessed them and used them=exploit
Secondly, yes i have made and sold over 100 bios, which at the time were all overcapped in intelligence and at the time, they ALL got fixed! Just ask Expo, Zoe, Proxy or any other gm how often i paged to have them fixed.
 
Since the revert, i havent sold a single bio, NOT ONE! So get your facts straight, i gave one to Fredric and made one for another player. So it might be true i have profited in the past selling bios, but i didnt make a dime since the revert.
Ok again this make no sense, you say you never sold one...but you gave one to Fredric AND another player? So that excused you from exploiting because you did not sell it?

Thirdly, yes i admit it, i used an overcapped bio to tank not kill spirilix 4 times, 4! All the other bios were being kept in the stables for when the caps were fixed, then like i have ALWAYS done in the past, would have gotten them fixed.  Ok, again you admit to exploiting 4 times and having 20+ overcapped, exploited bios in stables, without paging a GM to get them fixed?

I do not want to debate this no more, its bs. There never has been a debate, you were wrong for taking advantage of the system! But i will debate your way of doing things was all wrong, how so will you ask, first bios dont have the same pet slot/hp cap that regular pet have, they also had higher resists then bred pets did. So i find myself losing 20 bios, countless organics because the cap used by the new system isnt the same then the bio cap, and also because you made up your mind that i was planing on exploiting the game with all of them.

No worries though, you will never see another bio made by me, im done.

I would also like to add that you keep saying that Fredric made OP bios and he never did. I made bios, NOT him.  Ok I stand corrected, you made the overcapped, exploited pets and then knowingly gave them to fredric to use to exploit the system

Finaly, this post was all about 2 friends of ours leaving because of the new system, when all you do in game is tame, level up and breed, starting over is HUGE! Specialy when you had to start all over only 3 months ago.

Ok, im done with this topic.

And all of those that are Losing so many pets knew they were over caps and had used exploits to get them there.  There is no getting around that point.  No matter how you slice it.  The resist caps were known, the 2k hp cap was known.  Anyone that failed to page to have pets fixed knew they were in the wrong. 


But oh well it is what it is, and you are right this is my opinion, however it seems to be the opinion that the staff agrees with.

Why do you guys focus on pets that are over capped, that is not even the issue, hundreds of pets that are now sterile are rendered useless, thats what we are talking about.
 
They are not USELESS! You can still use to hunt with, sell, trade...would you rather have us just delete them all?
 
We sterilized them so we did not have to delete everyone's pets!  EVERY PET in game had the potential to overbred, overcapped and exploited!  There was no way around this issue!  You can still enjoy your old pets, you just CANT BREED MORE overcapped pets!

They aren't useless you just can't use those anymore to breed with.  Which means EVERYONE is starting at ground zero right now.  Everyone has a chance to make their name known as a breeder now.  There is nothing keeping folks from going forward with the new system.  I understand what was lost.  I lost max breeders as well believe me I am not in the dark as to what changed.


However now is the time to go forward not dwell on what was lost.

What am I missing?


The fact that I now have lost breeders that I have used for several max level pets.  Heck I even lost  pairs that I donated for.
And that I am ok with it?
But I can see the bigger picture. I can see that this  is good for the server. I can see that a market was made now.  That finally I can't breed never ending on  breeder pairs? That finally they will not function, for breeding.
Oh but I can still use them as they are ment to be used for.. Ohhh myyyy I can still sell them make gold and go out and play the game and wow breed more!  That I will actually have to put forth some effort if I want to continue breeding.


You forget this just didn't effect just you, just your friends. It effected everyone and it needed to be done.  It effected us as well. Yep I got hit. I have boxes full of breeders I've not only tamed but purchased with money.  All broken. But I'll pick up my dress hope on my trusty ethy and out I go to tame more and start all over.
NO BIG DEAL! 
It needed to be done and it was.  And yep I'm out a couple hundred bucks. And I'm still not throwing a hissy fit.

I wonder if staff is aware that there are MANY Tameables that SPAWN  OVER  resist cap 
CuSidhes, Greater Dragons, Ancient Firestreeds .
Yes we took this into consideration and has been resolved
 
You were also GUILTY of using overcapped bios/pets and not disclosing them to staff...you have no room to complain on this issue

Sorry not everyone can keep from getting upset because some folks are in a position to donate.  But that really isn't the issue, and as for the pets that are tameable with over cap resistances there is a big difference between a cu having 85 and having a pet with all 100s don't think there isn't.  And it has been said repeatedly if you have a pet that is over cap you need to page or it's going to be gone.

I wonder if staff is aware that there are MANY Tameables that SPAWN  OVER  resist cap 
CuSidhes, Greater Dragons, Ancient Firestreeds .
also not everyone can Donate thousands of $$ to purchase Star Citys and have to work for what they have. 
But I am glad that u do like my Taste Because I Built that start house you bought

We all seem to be adults here so I am going to be very blunt...

There were so many exploits and holes in the previous system that was completely unplayable unless you want to cheat.  I have watched many players over the course of the last three months cheating with pets over 100 resists.  These players seemed perfectly fine to engage the most powerful mobs on the shard without concern for the fact they were cheating.  Your bios are among these exploited pets being used to engage mobs.  The system does not allow for me to check stables or a few other methods to store pets but it does allow me to create new functions to clean up exploited pets as they are brought into game, that is what I did. 

Just remember this, most shards have a breeding system similar to Evolution in the aspect that it does not allow exploited pets. 

hello, i havnt been on this shard long enough nor do i play enough to even understand what all of the exploits were. I do know I am missing an evo dragon that I donated $50 to get... now its gone and i get a   eh, oh well response. I would like to see what exactly i did to lose my exact evo. I did not cheat!!! I have a hard enough time with normal content, i dont run or play with others, i have never breed a pet or any of the other bs. I have been paging in game to talk to someone and now i am getting no responses. From my end knowing i did not cheat this looks like a greedy move to earn more "donations"

Im unhappy and would like a reponse in game please,  thank you
First off, I have NEVER seen a page or pm from you stating you had an issue.  I answer every one of them myself and always respond promptly.

To be accused of being "greedy" is probably the most offensive and completely misinformed thing you can say to me.  I have busted my A** to make a great FREE shard for everyone to enjoy.  The costs of running a server, advertising and labor is VERY expensive, not to mention I have been here online 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week for 4 years...

Secondly, I just got done REFUNDING every evolution dollar to every player that donated in the last year for an issue that was not even my fault...I did this anyway, knowing there would not be many donations for the next six months because players have a ton of ED back in circulation!

Thirdly. I funded this project out of my own pocket for the first 6 months, before I saw a donation.  The shard did not break even for the first 2 years of operation...I do this shard because I love the game, not because I think this shard could every support me.  I have a full-time business that supports me, not this shard.  I spend all the shard donations on improving the shard and upgrading the hardware (Which I have done 4 times now)

Does that even remotely sound greedy?

well Kane I may have been given a Bio that was over Cap and I own a few lvl 30 pets that are over the cap but in all my Time on EVO I have NEVER MADE A SINGLE BIO.  And Jess Glad you like the place that much that u bought it
 
OMG Im still not sure why you are leaving or upset?  You have admitted that you have exploited pets!  "I own a few lvl 30 pets that are over the cap" and  "I may have been given a Bio that was over Cap"
 
You clearly knew you were in violation of the rules!

hello, i havnt been on this shard long enough nor do i play enough to even understand what all of the exploits were. I do know I am missing an evo dragon that I donated $50 to get... now its gone and i get a   eh, oh well response. I would like to see what exactly i did to lose my exact evo. I did not cheat!!! I have a hard enough time with normal content, i dont run or play with others, i have never breed a pet or any of the other bs. I have been paging in game to talk to someone and now i am getting no responses. From my end knowing i did not cheat this looks like a greedy move to earn more "donations"


Im unhappy and would like a reponse in game please,  thank you

I am still trying to figure out the rewarding part of this new taming system. I was 1 or 2 breedings away from getting my first max level 40 pet. Now I get to start from scratch.  That was all I was trying to do was get a pet to max level 40 I didn't care if it ever got higher than that. I sure didn't have any that had resists over the cap didn't even know how they got that way.

If someone figures out what is rewarding about this please let me know. I am having a hard time figuring it out.
This system was not designed to be "more rewarding" is was meant to balance out the exploited system and create a market for buying, selling and breeding...

Kane and I have been working on this new breeding system for the past 3 months. We planned the new scripts with all the elements for a balanced, logical and rewarding system in mind

Although the system is far better than what was in place when I began player Evo (pet breeding was disabled), and better yet than what came after that (inability to breed a pet above max lvl 30), I feel that the restrictions are only going to hurt newer players.  As Allestaria had pointed out a number of times, pets (non donation) are really not that effective for day to day use.  Only newer players will use pets at a Champ Spawn, only newer players will rely heavily on their wild caught and bred pets while they acquire gold to better their equipment. 

I can see the thought of this system creating an economy in pets, and pet potions, but the reality of it I fear will be the opposite.  The rarity of pets worth breeding has greatly increased (out of 10 max lvl 30 nightmares tamed, only 2 where not sterile) pushing the value of these pets out of the reach of newer players who would have to rely on them.  I foresee players who had been interested in breeding and have dabbled will loose interest (myself included), as the return on investment of time is simply not as rewarding.

Don't get me wrong here, I am not being critical of the staff, Dante or the obviously extensive work Kane has put into this system.  It is interesting, and I will explore it more for myself, but I don't see it opening a new niche of entrepreneurial pet shop owners.
We will test and monitor the % of sterile pets and add more spawn locations as necessary if it seems unbalanced

There are already some math or numbers that I am watching to see if need tweaked as the system progresses, it happens.  What looks good in testing with a small sample does not go go great once you have more data to look it.  Nothing in the world is stopping a new player from going out, finding a pet and even starting to breed.  Many of the systems and numbers I started with I tool from other shards in fact.  They work...   The difference from Evolution and these other shards is no one sticks around in the mud, as we find things that can be tweaked or done to improve the current system we will do so.  We are the only shard that has a consistent update every friday providing new content to the users.

There was no pet breeding economy a week ago, just greedy players using exploited pets.  I did not see the forum posts regarding that?  People were breeding here and like the breeding here because they could exploit it, there was a way to get a 100% chance of success and they used it each and every time.  No forum posts regarding that?  Tell me how all of these broken exploited systems helped this shard, created a better shard and in the did anything worth while?

Ask anyone doing Treasure Chests and Treasure Maps, we make tweaks and changes in just about every update in order to create a fun, playable and worth while system.   Give me some time to get this foundation right and work out the small bugs involved, then I can start adding pet abilities that you can spend points on.  If you have went and experienced Spirilix you will get first hand at what I can do with an AI.

Well most folks really need to take a step back, look up, yep that is infact the sky still above you.  No it isn't falling.  The world is not ending because a FIX was put in.  Yes a FIX, the system was very broken, and no one should be even attempting to claim otherwise.


Keep in mind the last time breeding was touched it was taken completely out of Evo.  Is that the answer most of you would rather have seen?  This way everyone from new player to vet has a chance to start out in a fair system on equal footing.  Yes it is now a race to see who can corner the marked on those max level GD, or Cu, or hell even on Fire Steeds.  There is nothing stopping anyone from taking the crown on this race.  Just get out there and do it.  Is it frustrating?  Yes it is.  Is it game changing?  Yes it is.  Is it the end of life as we know it.  Nope not even close.  If this ruins your game play so badly well then you should probably have stopped playing a long time ago if you couldn't get by without using over cap pets.

Look, for this shard to grow the economy needs to be healthy.  There needs to be opportunities for newer players to engage in the economy.   I think these changes to pets and Bios will help improve the economy.  There may be too much wealth concentrated in a few monopolistic empires.

Exactly Thunder.  Most don't want to understand that.  That is why this fix and so many of the other gold sinks are doing nothing but HELPING the new players.  Need to get their gold worth something, and give them away to make some gold, this does that since anyone can tame and breed, as long as they put the time into it.

Hello everyone,

I am very new, and absolutely no one as far as anything, but may I speak?

I truly understand why everyone is upset, on all sides, but from what I've learned, the system was pretty broken.  This is a harsh reset for those who've grown accustom to the previous system & even I had a teeny tiny hurt, but nothing compared to you senior players. But here is my perspective.

When I came here, I couldn't kill jack diddly, which curbed everything I did to a snails pace.  Then a kind guild mate (NEW) gave me my first Cu.  I had been using dragon/mare previously, and what a world changer!  I knew nothing about anything, but this cu was a life saver for my game play.  I could finally earn gold to handle my "insurance"! Before, I was terrified to die (thus played in lame dungeons/areas, which was not satisfying at all), and I died frequently.  Even now, I avoid champ spawns, because my gear sucks compared to most (no, I don't want any handouts, I'm a "earn your keep" kind of person), and I'm more a hindrance then a benefit at them. 

The Cu made the difference.  I then played for a few weeks, getting my act more together, and testing the waters with my Cus limitations.  I then got to the part where I was curious about breeding.  I did some reading, but not all made sense, so I thought to try it.  I was born human, I spent 500K on my hair dye (I'm a woman, and I will not go without my hair!  =)  ), no, I couldn't afford the Hair, but I couldn't stand looking at my poor toon as it was!  But if I wanted to breed, I needed lvl 30 Cus to do it right.

I searched vendors, [tr and [c for Cus, but no one had any or they were wayyyy to expensive.  So I checked, and found I could become an elf, yay!  Uh oh, but I loose my hair!!  Nooooo!
After 3-4 days of asking around/looking for Cus to no avail, I then decided, I wanted fresh/new, because I didn't want to get into trouble with whatever/however pets were exploited, so fresh it was!  I spent maybe 8-9 hours getting 3 Cus, 2 male 30, 1 female cu, and a friend gave me 1 female 30.  I managed to breed 1 pair (with my husband’s help) and got 1 pair of babies, woot!

Then they went sterile the following day....I didn't want to stay an elf, but I guess until I got new ones, Ill suffer.  So I started taming.  I’d wait until it was not a busy time, and then Id tame (I was skipping sleep to do this).  Yes, I have a life, but it was a small sacrifice for something I truly wanted.

  I did 3 hours straight the first night, 1 male 30...good!  I have 1 for Hubby.  Did 3 hours straight the next night, male 30...sterile.  Next night of 3 hours straight: none.  I don’t go afk, I barely go bio, but Hubby watches for me when I do. I don’t go kill something else to wait for respawn, because it would be just my luck: I’m gone and someone shows up and tames the 30 I’ve forced. I am the only one there, tend the herd properly to attempt to produce my 30, but spawns reallllyyyy slow, my eyes bleed, and my head hurts, yes, Ill take cheese with my whine please!  =)

I can’t speak for the changes, I don't know enough to have a valid voice, but when there are choke point/bottleneck spawns creatures, please, turn the spawn timer up.

I just "popped" by the Cu spawn.  I cleared the spawn, camped the area, and clearing respawn  cycles for about 2 hours.  Then a 30 Cu finally spawns, female to boot!  I do some prayer for it not to be sterile, then realize, it’s in a spot when line of site isn’t available, a bug spot!  I panic, and cry for help in chat, several wonderful persons hear my pleas and offer help, and "poof" she’s moved to a proper taming position!  I profusely thank everyone and the mighty unseen god that moved my Cu, and starting taming, she ate me once!  But it was worth it, I had her in short time!

Oh heavens, the phoenix is about! Nooo, dont eat us!  *throws herself out the portal and recalls away to the stable* Wonderful Cu in my arms, I feed her again, then stable her, to keep her safe until she’s bonded.

Ok, I got whimsical there, my apologies.  But my points are:

1. I am a new player.  I couldn't do anything "really fun or interesting" until I had a Cu.
2. Persons placing Cus on vendors don't always state what level/generation it is so I wont buy those, or there aren’t any quality ones
3. They are too expensive for newcoming players.
4. Trying to tame your own Cu is very time consuming because of level probabilities, then genders, then if its sterile...It had taken me 11 hours of pure sit there til Im sick of #*$(%*&, until I got 1 male & 1 female Cu..and this is only for 1 player trying to get Cus (well 2, ones for me, other is for husband)
5. There is only one location for such a popular pet: Bottleneck
6. Then, on a personal note: People need manners!  Most persons respected the Tamers Code of respecting turns, but others: "I am a donation master, I own everything, my time is more important then yours,...", then proceeding to overwhelm everything with their donation Werewolves, Zero emount & 1k luck item, etc...and grief me because they are god.

I have np with persons of Donation Status, I would do so too if I could afford it, but I still would have manners.  What is a player to do with these sort of persons?  I just smiled (weakly inside) to them, told them I believe in karma, then left after making sure persons on chat knew the rude persons name & about his actions and attitude.

As I said, I am no one, but, this is/was my attempt at sharing what data I’ve uncovered, for "adjusting purposes".

*Humbly Bows*
 
Sage

3. They are too expensive for newcoming players.

Just to give you some perspective on why they seemed so expensive
 
It did actually take quite a bit of time. You take two base pets, level them, attempt to breed them, wait 72 hours. Rinse and repeat until you get level 40 or desired levels.
On top of the time. you would often purchase bond deeds (or wait 7 days a pop...). and very often have to purchase sex change deeds for 10 ed a pop (or re-breed to get an opposing gender). and this would be for one set of pets.

I do think with the new system the bred pets will be even more expensive. Even purchasing a base level 30 sounds like it might be pricier now. we shall see!

With the addition of more spawn locations, limited time to breed, and life cycles the market should be full of new pets...you will no longer be able to hoard pets, they will now "spoil" over time and you will have to breed, sell and trade quickly, therefore lowering the prices.  Also no one can ever flood the marked my making 100 op pets and then selling them all at once.  This use it or lose it system will make top players seek top pets.  Old, beat up pets will be given or sold in the secondary market to newer players, again at a lower price!

We are all in a wait and see mode with the new system and changes that need to be made to make it better. 

I knew when I took over this job 3 months ago I had several months of pure clean up coding to make systems just usable, nevermind solid.  I think we are getting close to that and I can start working on dedicating time to creating new content and quests few all of the players on Evolution.  I do an update every friday and working as fast as I can do this but it still takes time.  I ask that if you can, work with me and hopefully be a little patient.

With the aging out system or "spoiled" pets, what good are Pet Power Scrolls?  If the pet is going to dwindle into uselessness, why would one go through the trouble of acquiring Pet Powerscrolls? 
You would have to get new scrolls and it creates a reason for newer players to do the pet bod system to obtain them for the veterans.  They would be desirable items and in demand if you wanted to create prime pets
Additionally, if the pets are now of a spoiled crop, why would new players find them desirable?   
As for top players seeking top pets...why spend the money on a pet that is going to falter in a matter of weeks?  Maybe my view of economics is faulted, maybe I'm just being cynical or naive. 

I get it, pets had been exploited, that is bad.  I get it, pets received fixed caps on exploited stats, it is good that this was addressed.  I don't get how pets becoming broken down ol' mares in a matter of two months is going to bolster an economy that is driven toward new players (as Sagemoon described in her enjoyable read story).
I think you are taking the word "spoiled" literally.  The elder pets will diminish in ability and stats but by no means be worthless.  You can still use and sell them to newer players, also use as shields when u attack a monster that lowers stats or beats up prime pets.

Actually the mechanics of the LifeCycle is not even in yet.. as of this moment the only thing that will happen with pets is they will get some extra ability points and restore points. 

I do agree there are some factors that need to be taken into consideration which is why I have went more on the side of caution rather then execution.  If we come to the conclusion that 2 months is not nearly enough time, guess what.. we change it.  As of right now pet powerscrolls are not even a critical part of the game so they were not taken into consideration greatly.   At this time I am still considering many other options such as allowing spending points for raising pet skill caps and such.

If you read the update you will also notice a Pet Freezing Potion... but at this point people seem to just want to type more and read less. 

Ok I'll admit, when Draco and I first saw the update... we were both PISSED!!!!! hours of training taming and breeding down the drain. money, tokens spent on salves and bonding deeds to keep them at peak performance wasted... till we got IN game and TALKED to Kane. Then we both understood what was going on and WHY things were done as they were. Am I all hunky dory about it? NO I'm still a tad annoyed. But I'll get over it and build up again. I was getting bored anywho. And hey, I still have kick ass pets! I'll just start breeding again when I find one that is max 30 AND breedable.




oh on a side note... KANE KANE KANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how many pets are we able to keep in the stable and for HOW long?

Maybe there should be retribution for all those that spent soooo much gold and Tokens and not only lost there pets but time and value too. Maybe it will be a good thing in the long run but soo many lost soo much.                         

Maybe they would do something like that if they knew that those pet owners that knowingly had pets over caps, would surrender any and all gold and tokens they made by using those pets. 


Double edge knife cuts both ways.

Maybe they would do something like that if they knew that those pet owners that knowingly had pets over caps, would surrender any and all gold and tokens they made by using those pets. 


Double edge knife cuts both ways.

  If I might chime in...

 

Maybe there should be retribution for all those that spent soooo much gold and Tokens and not only lost there pets but time and value too. Maybe it will be a good thing in the long run but soo many lost soo much.  "said by Fredric"   

What more of a retribution do you want? honestly! you were using exploits, you were caught, the issues were fixed the easiest way possible without the GM's having to go through EVERY pet on the shard, and your ass wasn't perma banned! be happy you are still here.. and quit belly aching over it.

As my 3 year old says. "Suck it up buttercup"

 The system was flawed and the new update will improve it. It will just take time i'm sure.  I lost some good pets but i agree with the change. It's for the best. Taming was a dead art before this. Only people I ever saw taming was young players. Now I even see vets taming stuff. There might actually be  a market for pets again. Before it was just donate pets and secret bios. Also many pets have strengths and weaknesses. It will be a way to think about pet strengths and adapt.Using the right kind of pet for the right kind of monster. I think this adds difficulty and makes it more rewarding.   


All in all, I say good job on the change.  I can see where things will eventually progress and I like it. Thx

Kane.


I saw"Pet Freezing Potion" on the wiki.  I waited a few days in hopes someone would ask before I did, but no one has.  What does this item do? Clarification would be awesome!


I keep looking for some way to grow a new tamed pet to max level, then freeze it. I dont want to be an endless breeder, I just want  hunting buddy (one that I dont have to wait to get home just to play; ie Hubby).  =)