Discussion in   Suggestions   started     10 years ago   September 20, 2014, 06:34:16 PM   by   Cryptic

Stone circle

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Topic :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 20, 2014, 06:34:16 PM

I think the time stone circle last needs to be cut in half, once your trapped in it while in fel your completely useless while a group of pvpers spam on you its crazy.

spainkevin79
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#1 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 20, 2014, 10:03:17 PM

I think it's just fine. Matter of fact its too easy to survive in there. Can we make it so that it drops my resists by 15 across the board while I'm in there? Maybe it could kill my stamina? Matter of fact I want one as deco for my house so I can sleep in it. We could make it a rare artifact that spawns in front of Destard.

I'd agree to cutting the time in half though if the personal teleporter carried the same time limit upon use. Half of the "pvpers" would never set foot in fel again.

#2 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 20, 2014, 10:14:23 PM

I Honestly believe stone circle rage is overrated. I get placed in stone circles in every battle. I get out just fine. If one were to want changes to say a donation item book that people * quoting from the community* pay good money for.... then I say balance it out. I cant stone circle u , then you cant use the exploited personal teleporter to leave battle. Tis a donation item all the same as the book. Cant have your cake and eat it too. Give a little instead of trying to take it all.

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#3 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 21, 2014, 03:28:28 AM

Yes YES NERF Everything that You all use to try to kill us with lmao LMAO.

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#4 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 22, 2014, 07:08:21 AM

I dont see anything wrong with stone circle but when I do I will be sure to put a page in and get things nerfed.

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#5 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 22, 2014, 01:37:34 PM

I dont see anything wrong with stone circle but when I do I will be sure to put a page in and get things nerfed.


LOL... Cute


There has always been issues with stone circle in pvp.  The druid book was ment for pvm not pvp.  Personally the circle should last no more than 2-3 seconds at max.  And whatever is caught inside should be immune to attacks while caged. Meaning that person is 'out of line of sight'.


That would solve this whole issue. Short duration and you can't attack whatever is caught in it. Unless you decide to put yourself in with them.  Problem solved.

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#6 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 22, 2014, 02:20:12 PM

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...you can't attack whatever is caught in it. Unless you decide to put yourself in with them.  Problem solved.

This is one of the best solutions I've heard to stone circle in PVP and very simple to code. Add LOS Blockers along with the stones.
 

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#7 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 22, 2014, 07:01:23 PM

I agree with Minos and Allestaria, being unable to cast in would be great, but allowing to teleport in, or out should still be available.  Giving who ever is trapped in an escape to return to the fight, and giving attackers the ability to jump into the pit to take the battle in a confined space.  It still would be viable for field ganks, and a solid tactic.  My guess is, whatever changes (if any) would upset some one, if they use it for PvM a nerf in time or ability to cast in would bother players.  If it's nerfed for PvP, a popular tactic will go out the window.  But the duration does seem pretty long, for both applications.

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#8 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 22, 2014, 09:17:06 PM

So then it would be turned into a griefing fest. You will have the lames running around with stone circle precasted on themselves then when they are attacked they will drop it on themselves then re or world teleport out. If that is the case then let's rename the spell "I can't pvp I'll hide in my bubble". I die because of stone circle, I kill people because of stone circle, but I can escape from most stone circles.
PvP has been insanely active lately involving ++, BUDz, BN, and DB. The fights have been going back and forth with wins and loses on all sides. PvP is becoming more balanced with the changes in play styles and templates. More people are using Zelda swords and dealing a greater amount of damage faster than your insanely high eval Mage (me). I'm not complaining let's nerf Zelda swords so I don't get hit for 100 points of damage everytime someone swings at me (1.25 swings a second). I've overcome and I take my deaths when they come. You nerf stone circles anymore than lowering there duration and you are just wasting everyone's time. I'm sick of chasing people all over Britannia and not being able to catch them. Just my two cents. The above suggestion for stone circle will be more overpowered than a damn world teleported and it shouldn't even be considered .

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#9 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 09:08:22 AM

So then it would be turned into a griefing fest. You will have the lames running around with stone circle precasted on themselves then when they are attacked they will drop it on themselves then re or world teleport out. If that is the case then let's rename the spell "I can't pvp I'll hide in my bubble". I die because of stone circle, I kill people because of stone circle, but I can escape from most stone circles.
PvP has been insanely active lately involving ++, BUDz, BN, and DB. The fights have been going back and forth with wins and loses on all sides. PvP is becoming more balanced with the changes in play styles and templates. More people are using Zelda swords and dealing a greater amount of damage faster than your insanely high eval Mage (me). I'm not complaining let's nerf Zelda swords so I don't get hit for 100 points of damage everytime someone swings at me (1.25 swings a second). I've overcome and I take my deaths when they come. You nerf stone circles anymore than lowering there duration and you are just wasting everyone's time. I'm sick of chasing people all over Britannia and not being able to catch them. Just my two cents. The above suggestion for stone circle will be more overpowered than a damn world teleported and it shouldn't even be considered .


So you are sooo set on using stone circle. That if it was fixed you would not know how to pvp?
How would anyone ever pvp on OSI.. They don't have stone circle there. And yet its very must an active feature.
And yes Zelda sword needs to be nerfed all around. I have no problems saying it.


Stone circle needs fixed.. always has been. I personally think since the druid book was never intended for pvp, it should not work in fel at all.  Then this whole thing would be solved.  Would bring even more balance to this thing called pvp.

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#10 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 09:37:15 AM

On osi they are not running around with 300 hit points and no skill cap.

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#11 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 09:39:17 AM

Don't think Zelda swords need to be nerfed IMO. It's allowing Dexxers to hit hard and deal around the same amount of damage as any 220+ eval Mage.

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#12 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 10:27:05 AM

On osi they are not running around with 300 hit points and no skill cap.


Has nothing to do with a spell book.. With or without the druid book in pvp will not matter for skill cap or hit points.


Can't wait till the pvp gets more balanced. Things like the zelda sword will be in line to where it should be. No more op mages.
Then maybe.. MAYBE pvp will be worth it.


But then again. It will always come down to those one button macros..


Like this one...


//Auto Para
cast 'paralyze' enemy
pause 1000
for 5000000
  getenemy 'innocent' 'murderer' 'enemy' 'criminal' 'gray' 'humanoid' 'closet'
  if not dead 'enemy'
    if @inrange enemy 10
      pause 100
      target! enemy
      cast 'explosion' enemy
      pause 1450
      cast 'flame strike' enemy
      pause 1650
      cast 'Lightning' enemy
      unsetalias 'enemy'
      stop
    endif
  endif
  if not targetexists
    playmacro "Auto Para"
  endif
endfor


Got lots more of these macros...Such a shame..

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#13 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 12:22:12 PM

Wow, this got serious quickly. We keep using the acronym 'pvp' in reguards to stone circle, but I truly feel that this is incorrect. Stone circle is a pk tool, not a pvp tool. We use it to trap non-combatants so that they are less slippery when killing them. Realistically speaking though, if stone circle was not intended for pvp/pk use then we should just apply Allestaria's fix and call it a day. It's by far the best suggestion I have heard so far. I use stone circle alot, but if it was gone today, I'd adapt quickly. I think everyone else would as well. Or not, but that's their problem, not mine. I would say that if i drop a stone circle on myself and my target (with her changes in effect), I'd like it to only last 2-5 seconds. Maybe a random number. That would keep things interesting. Plus I dont want to be stuck for 30 seconds waiting if someone uses their personal teleporter to escape.

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So then it would be turned into a griefing fest. You will have the lames running around with stone circle precasted on themselves then when they are attacked they will drop it on themselves then re or world teleport out. If that is the case then let's rename the spell "I can't pvp I'll hide in my bubble".

Figures your first idea was a new way to run away. You do know people can just run around with protection and a rune book and get the same effect. Even faster if they hold recall and set a macro to target a pre-marked rune.

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#14 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 02:15:08 PM

Just throwing this out there: dropping stone circle on oneself and then personal teleporting would take longer than just instantly hitting one's teleporter macro. Stone circle is an extra, and unnecessary, step.

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#15 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 08:11:18 PM

 Right

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I'm sick of chasing people all over Britannia and not being able to catch them. 'Said by Chunurai'

@ Chunurai

  Great thought, ever think about all the people with quotes similar to your own, starts off something like this:

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I'm so sick of being PK'ed... so sick of PvP... so sick of all the OP aspects of PvP and PK's  'said/thought by all'


  [New Thought]

  Learn to PvP, instead of doing what most people do--- and some how manage to call it PvPing---  pretend. Scripting play styles, trending skill set ups, trending gear builds, and lazy mentalities [points to the first quote about]. Face it, you're pretending.

  Am I the best at pvping/pking? No. But at least I know how. Have you killed people with anything available to you at the moment? I have... did i mention I only had 720 skills max?...


  --Sturger--

P.S. that's my past talking. As I listen to you all squabble it resurfaces and scoffs.

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#16 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 23, 2014, 11:29:43 PM

Lol... I have been pvping for years and then some more years. I've always stuck with the scribe Mage template. I was unbeatable in my prime on osi. Unbeatable Mage 5x.. I know how to pvp and I don't rely on scripts or overpowered spells. I'll use stone circle to catch anyone who runs from me or in a group fight... Let's keep bashing on amfekk because he is something else on this server. I'm just giving my two cents on stone circle and why I think people just need to learn how to overcome it. I've escaped numerous stone circles. Maybe the timer needs to be adjusted. I think cryptic started this post after getting stoned circled by ++Pk and withered to death while he stayed hidden. Were you flee and couldn't escape the heat of battle? World teleporter not working?? Oh no. Happens to the best of us. It's called getting ganked and it's a part of the game. Maybe pick up evasion and evade a dump and teleport out of it.

I'm down for whatever gets nerfed on this server because I will adapt and my name will still be on top of the leaderboards. I just think it's not a wise decision to make the target unhittablr while in a stone circle. Already only certain tiles can target someone with in a circle..

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#17 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 12:39:06 AM

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I'm down for whatever gets nerfed on this server because I will adapt and my name will still be on top of the leaderboards.

I can't deny that. Everytime we log on your whole guild just sits in red city. Ya know if we start playing hardcore you'll eventually turn blue.

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#18 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 06:12:18 AM

Kind of hard to turn blue with over 200 long. Here's the difference between me and you Kevin (souls under?) I actually don't need my guild mates to be on for me to kill people. All I play is my red anymore.

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#19 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

     You know I felt bad about that ass beating I put on you the last time we dueled. I was worried that I was being too hard on the new batch of pvpers. I see that I was misguided. I play with my friends because this is a game that I play with my friends. Thats what online games are for, playing with friends. Are you really trying to demean me for having friends that I play with?
     
     How are you at 200 long term murders? I never see you kill anyone. I just see you sitting at red city. I guess dueling your guild mates is a good way to farm points or whatever you are trying to brag about this week, but I am beyond that bravado. The fact is, when my three man team rolls out, Felucca empties out. Well not everyone, the personal teleporter trolls come out. We kill them anyway though, so its cool. It just takes a little more luck to get them.

     You asked me recently what we were gonna do once pots were nerfed? Now you see. We'll continue to kill you. Not all of us need a gimmick to pvp. We can even bypass your exploited parry/evasion tactics. 90% block rate? Too easy. Must have seemed like a good idea when you were fighting people who didn't know how to bypass it. Might wanna read up on your game mechanics bro. I'm just happy for the 50 mil I made selling you guys parry augments. Maybe next time I can sell you some skills, then you'll be able to pvp without relying on gimmicks.

     I feel sorry for you though. It must be awful lonely/embarrassing to be the top spot on the pvp board and be confined to red city for fear that a group of assassin's will come calling. I'd claim that it is my fault that you're in that position, but it's just not true. Your pride called out to me. All those smart comments you thought were so clever, are calling you to a solemn fate.

     I have collected quite a few contracts in the last few weeks. Word is spreading. I have contracts for every red in felucca. Except one. You. Why is that? Do people enjoy being killed by you? I personally think it's because you're just not killing anyone. Also, I promised not to name him, but tell the rest of your guild mates that I am not recruiting from the current pvp roster. It took bravery to come to me looking for work, but I don't want that kind of drama. We're already hated enough as is.

     I'll fight you, and win, on my terms. Not yours. I'm sorry if that doesn't quite fit in with your fantasy of pvp godliness, but it fits in quite nicely with mine. I guess what I'm really trying to say is, Thank you. Thank you for taking the lazy way out. Thank you for telling everyone that pots were op (think about that one), Thank you for not researching your build. Thank you for being afraid, and thank you for being just another victim.   †Soulsunder†

#20 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 12:41:32 PM

^ Um... damn.. * I'm a go purchase a aloe vera farm.... So i can donate to that big burn that was just given...

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#21 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 01:15:47 PM

Soul what did you just say up there man. other then the trash talking,  you said there were contracts? wtf are you talking about. Do people really do that? or is it just something you offer to people cuz you gotta feed your ego?  The nerfs happened, mainly because it needed to be done. When you can toss 20 pot under someone in just a couple seconds. Its broken, and if you are even half the man you think you are you would agree. now im not sure when it happend in this post. But where did it turn into hate on fek day.  Just keep your babble to urself and your circle jerk, and come play the game. and for the love of god stop talking in rp mode.  And for this contract for fek you was talking about. its more then likly because he is social and helps almost anyone who asks. Ever stop to think maybe he doesnt have one for that reason.? I pvp for the fun of it, win or lose. i like it. also i pvm a bunch, cuz i like it. you guys roll around in packs ganking people cuz ya like it. Just leave it at that. We like the game, and changes need to happen and still more. im sure.

#22 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 01:50:19 PM

^ Sorry but I do not believe you read anything he wrote correctly. Should go back and reread what he wrote.. He didn't write anything you said. ReRead his remark to pots.. hes happy they are fixed.. Dont know what your actually saying az.. sorry.

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#23 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 01:56:35 PM

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Soul what did you just say up there man

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and for the love of god stop talking in rp mode.

Sorry, its in english. I'll provide a link to help you. https://translate.google.com/

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The nerfs happened, mainly because it needed to be done.

Exactly where did I say that they shouldn't happen?

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Just leave it at that. We like the game, and changes need to happen and still more. im sure.

Exactly what are you replying to?

     I wish I could respond more thoroughly to this, but frankly its not very well written. I will try though. Yes people take out contracts. Yes, nerfs do happen and for good reason. Still not sure where i disagreed with that. I don't talk in rp mode, but i do have above a 5th grade literacy level. Also... you pvp? Thats nice that you like pvm, so do I. Yes we play as a guild. I think that covers your whole topic.

     As for the trash talk aspect of your post, if you're angry over something I have posted, I could care less. You aren't exactly my core fan base, and for that, I am proud. Good job representing your guild though. I am sure they are proud.

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#24 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 06:06:06 PM

Last time I killed you souls under you were hiding inside pumpkins house. Ghostsniper died along side of you. What happened?? Your script stall out?

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#25 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 07:09:26 PM

To be honest I was trying to eat a sandwich and pvp one handed. I'm sure you make those mistakes too sometimes lol. We all do. Matter of fact Ghost Sniper was making fun of me about it for the next 10 minutes. Blamed his death on my sandwich as well. Oh well.

Keep in mind, I don't think I killed you that day, but your entourage all died to me and my sandwich.

Btw my scripts don't stall out ;) Thats the great thing about making your own versus downloading them.

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#26 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 24, 2014, 10:15:35 PM

enough said..

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#27 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 25, 2014, 01:00:01 PM

   

      Not all of us need a gimmick to pvp.


If this statement is true. why are you and your friend direct clones of each other.  Same weapons, scripts, gear all around pretty much the same. Even tactics.  sounds like a gimmick to me. I do not mind you bashing my 2nd grade level at all, Hell here in Kentucky we are lucky to count to 5 without chickens or cows around for place holders.  Im happy for ya man, im glad your still 'playing' the game. But for real. only one in your guild that was worth anything at all was pumpkin. At least he was cool to just hang out with and duel. You guys just hide and stalk around or house sit. Which btw why is it so bad that people choose to Afk at redcity? You afraid they may see your bar?  its no different then you afking where you do.  We just want our coins. I dunno just grow up a little bit. and stop acting so arrogant.

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#28 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 25, 2014, 02:53:51 PM

     I don't think you'd understand my explanation. Not because of education (that chicken and cows thing was funny) but because you just don't have our mindset. You seem the exact opposite. Since that's the case I apologize for poking fun at you earlier. It is apparent to me now that I shouldn't have done that.

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I dunno just grow up a little bit. and stop acting so arrogant.

I'll keep this simple. No.

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#29 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 25, 2014, 09:31:31 PM

+1 to trash talk... brings me back old memories.

@ Chunurai
  Good to know you played by old school rules. Perhaps that is what is missing, rules of honor, that true pvp'er/PK's abide by.


  Perhaps that is what the PvP community needs to by talking about. Once those rules are decided, then we can see who is truly number one. Perhaps it will be Soul, or perhaps it will be Fek.  (smiles) perhaps it will be...


  --Sturger--


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#30 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 26, 2014, 06:03:44 AM

   

      Not all of us need a gimmick to pvp.


If this statement is true. why are you and your friend direct clones of each other.  Same weapons, scripts, gear all around pretty much the same. Even tactics.  sounds like a gimmick to me. I do not mind you bashing my 2nd grade level at all, Hell here in Kentucky we are lucky to count to 5 without chickens or cows around for place holders.  Im happy for ya man, im glad your still 'playing' the game. But for real. only one in your guild that was worth anything at all was pumpkin. At least he was cool to just hang out with and duel. You guys just hide and stalk around or house sit. Which btw why is it so bad that people choose to Afk at redcity? You afraid they may see your bar?  its no different then you afking where you do.  We just want our coins. I dunno just grow up a little bit. and stop acting so arrogant.

Azlem pretty much All the "PVPers" in ++PK have the same exact build lol...... They all actually have pumpkin's build if I dont say so....... That's besides the point.... The point is we are Player Kill Build not "Duel" build. Not my fault We play our build better then you play yours...... I am not here to flame you, troll you, make you mad...... It is simple.... Congratulations... You guys won by Crying and complaining..... And it was not even the pots that was killing you..... A lot of the time I never even used them I just nuked u.....

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#31 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 26, 2014, 09:23:49 AM

pumpkins build was always based with a bow and para fear.. most of ++ pk is running around with the mayhem.. the most dominant build on the server is an eval mage.. why wouldn't every pvper want to base their style on that?
azlem is actually stacked magery instead of eval.. me and cal run bushido mage.. any other pvpers on the server running around without a shield and no spike shield? dont think so.. thallos is a dexxer/archer.. kemyst runs around with a mayhem and an eval suit in the making.. havoc runs around with a bow and a basic pvp suit/no cloth...
how are we all the same build? because we use magery?

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#32 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 26, 2014, 09:29:18 AM

++pk didnt cry and complain about pots.. pots was a problem and seriously needed a nerfing.. just like before the revert, pots had a timer.. why? because it was simple for you guys to hit one key and trap an opponent with 10+ explosions.. why don't you guys just adapt with the changes and continue on playing and pvping.. you guys work well with eachother and are pretty dominant when you are all on.

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#33 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 26, 2014, 09:57:20 AM

     You're correct in your statements. As far as i know it was not ++pk who complained. The events leading directly into my decision were not based around ++pk at all. The animosity we have built towards you and your guild was intentional on my behalf. I intended to escalate the conflict to an unprecedented level. ++pk stepped up to that level. They stayed back some against us as they worked out our strategy and formulated their own. I don't always get along with them or like the things they say, but they were 100% in bounds.

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why don't you guys just adapt with the changes and continue on playing and pvping.. you guys work well with each other and are pretty dominant when you are all on.

     Thank you. I did adapt. I adapted before the changes ever even took place. The problem is that a complaint from a whining, sniveling, ignorant trash pvper is far stronger than any amount of damage I can ever dish out. That is a battle I can't win, because when I lose a fight I look at myself. I find my weaknesses and I correct them. What I don't do is run to staff and submit complaints with multiple accounts in a lame attempt to get them all banned. The people behind it know who they are. They are extremely lucky I don't know exactly 100% for certain who was behind it. I'd make one hell of an example out of them.

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#34 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 26, 2014, 11:40:31 PM

"Posted by: Chunurai
« on: Today at 09:23:49 AM » Insert Quote
pumpkins build was always based with a bow and para fear.. most of ++ pk is running around with the mayhem.. the most dominant build on the server is an eval mage.. why wouldn't every pvper want to base their style on that?
azlem is actually stacked magery instead of eval.. me and cal run bushido mage.. any other pvpers on the server running around without a shield and no spike shield? dont think so.. thallos is a dexxer/archer.. kemyst runs around with a mayhem and an eval suit in the making.. havoc runs around with a bow and a basic pvp suit/no cloth...
how are we all the same build? because we use magery?"

Ahem, don't forget poor birds!  Only player to run around with 0 parry and only 115 "wep skill (wrestling)  super squishy and I'm dead in two or three dexter hits  but so much fun !

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#35 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 07:34:15 AM

The LOS is not an easy thing to tackle because a bulk of it is handled in the client, almost every other "fix" for this will open the door to a number of other combat related exploits.  This is why I have not been so quick to code any changes to this matter.  I think I have come to 2 over all fixes though that should start to smooth out the druid book as a whole.

1.  If you use any means to harass or prevent a ghost from resurrecting and returning to their body you will be jailed, if that doesn't work then perhaps staff and you need to figure out if you want to be here.  Everyone posting in this thread knows better and you are the ones causing a majority of the issues with this matter.

2.  Durations, damage and such for all the druid spells need to be based on the skill of the caster and not static numbers.  If you want to run around with 120 Animal Lore, expect a short duration or lower damage. 

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#36 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 08:13:52 AM

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2.  Durations, damage and such for all the druid spells need to be based on the skill of the caster and not static numbers.  If you want to run around with 120 Animal Lore, expect a short duration or lower damage.

     Thats a great idea. When you get around to tackling this could you give us some concrete info on how it all works? The reason I say that is because when i use a druid spell it raises animal taming, but checks animal lore. Then damage for volcanic eruption I have been told was based off of either of those and 3 other people have told me it was based on spellweaving. The druid book has always been controversial. It'd be nice to see it leveled out and get some legitimate info on what exactly it does and how it does it.

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#37 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 10:46:15 AM

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If you use any means to harass or prevent a ghost from resurrecting and returning to their body...

To be clear, there is never a situation where it is acceptable to slow down an aggressive enemy from returning to attack?

-Someone who is dying, immediately resurrecting at a nearby ankh and returning to attack, over and over, in order to harass your Felucca PvM experience. Perhaps with 3-5 insanely powerful donation pets. Going by the history of the server, this would be classified as griefing. So you can run away, page, and cross your fingers something will be done (hint, don't hold your breath), or attempt to handle it within the current mechanics of the game and finish what you were doing.

-In a battle where your team is greatly outnumbered and anyone with an ounce of strategic thinking would want to slow down the return of fallen hostile players.


Everyone might take a moment to critically think why in a heated PvP encounter, with 8+ people in the area, someone might not spend crucial time considering who has just resurrected, who is or isn't a threat, etc. Consider that not everyone plays this as UO Farmville and might actually have a strong competitive drive to win. I've made the comparison of the mindset in PvP to that in a boxing match. The opponents step into the ring looking to take the other's head off, not for a couple rounds of slap-and-tickle. When one is knocked down in the ring, the other doesn't give a hand to help them get up, apologize, ask them if they should play nicer. No, as soon as they are on their feet, it's time to rearrange the other's face again -- until one submits and does not return to the fight.

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#38 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 01:01:40 PM

ankhs all over fel and in t2a is overpowered :P.. remember if you died you had to run the world and look for a RED healer if you were a pk

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#39 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 01:09:00 PM

i'm surprised you are all saying use use the personal teleporter in battle? i actually never do unless im literally messing with a group of six people and just trying to bug them lmao if im actually attacking you wont catch me using it. I started this because i just honestly think it last a little too long even trapping pvmers in it to pk, its not fair.

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#40 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 01:16:25 PM

Quote from: Chunurai
ankhs all over fel and in t2a is overpowered :P.. remember if you died you had to run the world and look for a RED healer if you were a pk

In complete agreement with that Chunurai. I understand why there are ankhs and moongates everywhere, the self resurrection option, temporary invulnerability, and so on, but I do not care for the all the unintended consequences from them. Blows my mind how anyone can feel there is too much risk/too much to sacrifice doing anything on the server.

#41 Re :   Stone circle
10 years ago  September 27, 2014, 03:50:45 PM

PVP Rules: I never check the forums.. like ever and i Just saw this....
Always try to be fair and consider how you would feel if the situation was reversed. If someone complains or is not having fun, then the rule of thumb is you were probably violating a rule

Do not target young, new or inexperienced players. Lessons can be learned without ruining a player's experience on this shard. Please use some common sense and common courtesy.
Never bully a player or intentionally try to run off a player either by actions or words. If there is a legitimate problem with a player, please notify a GM and let us take care of the situation.

Reds/Murderers
Preface by saying that though a Murderer may be played, consistently thoughtless griefing will not be tolerated. Roleplaying type of conflict and competition are encouraged by UOE. Hence Red characters are a welcome element. It is a very grey, subjective area, however, between what is griefing and what is not. Murderers beware. Do not "rez kill". After a player has been defeated/killed, you must let them fully recover before engaging them again.

Dante note:
My wish is to keep pvp light with consentual players, develop pvp skill by tournaments and fun events for players that want to participate. As the shard develops a population I would like to evolve the PvP population in Felucca and have guild town and players that want this style. What I dont want is to see players killing off the new population and making people quit...



Ok guys as far as pvp goes on the server ^ everything in the above paragraphs is opposite of how pvp is on the server right now with the rival guilds. Pvp is not light.. its pretty hardcore.. fighting outnumbered... people get upset.. rage, cry... scream... I think we are past the light pvp phase... Maybe we should tone it down a bunch... like almost non existent because I can now see why people get super upset over pvp on this server.. These rules exist... Fist time seeing this... one things clear for me.. now reading this.. pvp is not for this server at the moment.. not till I guess they balance or possibly just making it a straight pvm server... cuz pvp is and always will UO EVOLVE into hardcore. PVP is on a different page on this server then what PKIng PVPing truly is... As of right now.. this is a pvm server if these rules exist and are set in stone. Not being a ass.. just saying PKing PVP is another beast and its just not ready for it.