Lets face it.. when you red it kinda ruins the game unless you have a second char.. you cant attend most events and a lot of the pvming is out of the picture...I think they should be allowed to continue to play just like everyone else honestly its just for roleplaying purposes being red is just annoying to have to sit around all day with not much to do besides pk ( assuming there is anyone to kill...)


i've seen it on ALOT of other servers and i think a lot of players will agree maybe we should change it here as well
Sorry, but this wont happen on this shard

Second that. Its a cool setup now but reds are forced to champ and pk, and certain elements of the game require access to Ilshenar / Tokuno / Trammel / Malas / Etc. Additionally allowing reds to enter other facets will give them more options for game-play rather than just killing everyone on-sight and champing. This will open up champing a bit more by distracting the "reds" and decrease the intense pvp hunger for reds in fel (or atleast make them less active in fel - opening the facet up a little bit more for blues and newer players ).


Possible Options:
Allow them to just use Ilshenar (As a bonus to felucca and current areas)
Allow them to enter everywhere EXCEPT Trammel (Keeps the Role-play element in)
Allow them everywhere (Its not like they can attack anyone outside of Fel - maintaining the safe element of these facets )


Just suggestions, I think its a fun and enjoyable setup currently and I'm here to stay regardless. I don't say it near enough but thanks again to the Staff for making Evolution so cool.

I'm fine with reds being in all facets so long as guards kill them in cities. 

Illshenar only. Trammel and malas no.

To me red means you engaged in non-consensual PVP. 


Also, there is currently no AFK server logout.  No reason your red time is minimized while you are at work.  Also, you have 5 kills before you become red and there are more aspects to the game than PVP.  Try them out before you go red.


You can also donate to remove the red counts.

Reds are murderers and should be treated like them. Count yourselves lucky lord british doesn't send kill squads of guards out into the world to hunt you down. You are a criminal that is a choice you made and you should have to live with the consequences of those actions.

Reds are murderers and should be treated like them. Count yourselves lucky lord british doesn't send kill squads of guards out into the world to hunt you down. You are a criminal that is a choice you made and you should have to live with the consequences of those actions.

You people that CHOOSE to play reds and be confined to Fel are basically held in check just like those people that CHOOSE to play as a blue and not PK are confined to the Tram rule-set areas.
 
Its like the old saying goes......."You made your bed now lie in it."

you make yourself a red, its not like some player through theirself on your sword.

Was waiting on someone to say that, thanks you made my morning.

We all reap the results of our choices whether we realize it or not.  Limitations on reds exists for a reason, to be preventative and punitive.  If you wish to venture freely into all facets then stay blue.

Alternatively, we could request a change for those who hunt and kill reds.  I don't pvp but I believe under the current rules that players who execute our murderous citizens are also incurring counts.  That seems wrong somehow.  A change of this aspect might encourage more participation in pvp against those who've chosen this path.

i think if red players were ever to be allowed in all cities i feel that it would be appropriate that anyone could attack them without turning into a criminal, however, the reds cannot  initiate combat with a blue but ofcourse can in all means fight back if attacked but i think with some kind of damage and defense reduction automatically for the red in terms of red vs blue in non fel areas. i do feel like it would suck to be red and not able to participate in everything, but at the same time it was their choice to go red and that's the consequence. kind of like if you jumped off a bridge into a river for the thrill and ended up braking your ribs and drowning, that was on you lol

Lets face it.. when you red it kinda ruins the game unless you have a second char.. you cant attend most events and a lot of the pvming is out of the picture...I think they should be allowed to continue to play just like everyone else honestly its just for roleplaying purposes being red is just annoying to have to sit around all day with not much to do besides pk ( assuming there is anyone to kill...)
if you want to join all the events and be able to do what you want concerning fighting then it is your choice if you don't like being red and limited like it is suppose to be then don't pk it is not a punishment by us it was your choice to become red.

i've seen it on ALOT of other servers and i think a lot of players will agree maybe we should change it here as well
Sorry, but this wont happen on this shard

If you chose the path of red names u should be know there are some - taking this way.

Reds are an important part of the balance of a shard.  They "guard" all of the rare loot in Felucca and make you work hard to get the good stuff.  They make rare items rare and keep the economy in balance. 
 
The "fear" of getting Pked  is what makes your palms sweat while fumbling around with your mouse in anticipation of an ambush!  The thrill of victory or the agony of defeat is the aspect that makes this game great.  Without red players, this would just be a boring camping trip on top of common loot.
 
The reason they are restricted to Felucca is to do a job, they are the hardest "monsters" in-game to defeat!

I totally agrree with Larynda's post & would also like to see these changes made so we can freely defeat reds at will in Fel. with no going gray or murder counts. imho

Reds are an important part of the balance of a shard.  They "guard" all of the rare loot in Felucca and make you work hard to get the good stuff.  They make rare items rare and keep the economy in balance. 
 
The "fear" of getting Pked  is what makes your palms sweat while fumbling around with your mouse in anticipation of an ambush!  The thrill of victory or the agony of defeat is the aspect that makes this game great.  Without red players, this would just be a boring camping trip on top of common loot.
 
The reason they are restricted to Felucca is to do a job, they are the hardest "monsters" in-game to defeat!

My last server was PandoraUO, i player there before year and half i think.There reds can freely go everywhere and there was no restriction for them.So kinda it was pointless to be red or blue its was same thing.Kinda the logic is was gone here if u chose your path u face the restriction about that.

Reds are an important part of the balance of a shard.  They "guard" all of the rare loot in Felucca and make you work hard to get the good stuff.  They make rare items rare and keep the economy in balance. 
 
The "fear" of getting Pked  is what makes your palms sweat while fumbling around with your mouse in anticipation of an ambush!  The thrill of victory or the agony of defeat is the aspect that makes this game great.  Without red players, this would just be a boring camping trip on top of common loot.
 
The reason they are restricted to Felucca is to do a job, they are the hardest "monsters" in-game to defeat!

We've always had reds in my short time on Evo.  But they were part of the player community, of "Us".  They did their time and rejoined us when they could.  Now there is a distinct, very separate group of players.  It's not their highlighted color, but the antagonism that makes us want to exclude and punish. You hunt us in Fel, you're stronger, more organized and have contentious attitudes.  You can kill us but, as it stands right now, you are excluded from all the lands where we get to roam freely.  We like that.  The poll on this question shows overwhelming agreement. There are consequences for behavior.  Society doesn't allow known murderers to mingle with the general population  Continuing Dante's analogy, "monsters" don't belong in our towns or safe facets.  You can't be tamed so you are kept there for us to avoid, escape or kill.

+1 to Larynda post.

Deleted because as minos pointed out this thread is mentioning something separate from fel.

While the thread is labeled cities, the discussion has been about facets.