I know their has been side by side discussions, complaints, arguments, and conversations concerning the Personal Teleporter use in pvp. I have a suggestion that may intrigue some or may just piss more people off further. You share your opinion on it.
I believe that with the teleporter issue... instead of taking away anything from it.. maybe we can add something to it since taking away brings so much grief and anger.
Lets make it like the [getpet command that if you use the personal teleporter out of combat it costs you 5k to use. If you use the personal teleporter in a combat setting then it costs you around 500k in order to exit a heated battle. I believe this to be a good idea because it brings a balance knowing that if your trying to kill someone... and they escape then you actually made it cost them. If they escape before getting flagged or hit... then they can escape with not having to pay much money. Puts a intensity setting on constantly using the personal teleporter.
What do you guys think?

paying to escape pvp combat I have zero issue with other than.  Gold is irrelevant.  And to think about charging me 5k to use an item that I paid 500 ed for to teleport outside  of combat, um think I already paid for that service.  Don't want someone to teleport out of a pvp encounter don't be the first to attack, make them attack first then they can't use it.

Umm NO

I think, that teleporters should be unlimited in Tram, But some will kill me for saying this. In fel side. There should only be a certain area's that it will work in. If your in town zone. For instance, maybe have alters in fel in locations close but not on top of certain areas, that if your standing on it you can use you teleporter to go anywhere. That way IF we are champing, or hunting for kills if either player wants to skip out on a fight they would have to make it to one of them spots flagged or not and should be able to gate.  Either way it would give the Pk'ers a chance at least of killing someone, and also the same chance of the pk'ed to leave.  But as it is. Fel is fel, u go there at risk, and there should be more of it. but at the same time, just disabling a ED item for the entire area would be lame.

Hrm to put it more simply, a waypoint system in fel that allows the teleporter as a key. Only if you have the teleporter can u use said system.  And dont take that wrong. For people that do not have a teleporter, this topic is not for you anyways.  Towns and certain areas should still have there drop points but if you want out. you best run your butt of to get there.

     I have played here for 2 years without a personal teleporter and have never suffered any ill effects from it. I hardly ever die, and if i did have one I'd be immortal. Using a personal teleporter to escape from combat against a larger superior force is an intelligent move, and I applaud that decision, but it's not for me. I'd rather just hide and stealth back around looking for a way to counter attack. Maybe find a weak member and cull him off from the herd.

     What it boils down to though, once again, is the pvpers. If you're a pvper or a pk and you teleport out every single time you take damage how do you justify that? I'd be so ashamed I'd just uninstall uo and go play hello kitty online. I'll make it easy for you. Here is a link, if you can suffer the shame no longer.
                                                                                                 
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     Here is a little insight as to D*B strategy, we remember who the cowards are. If 5 people attack me and my companion, I'll target the cowards first. They'll personal teleport away, and then I am fighting 2 on 2 or in some instances (not as rare as you might think) my companion and I will be alone again.

     I will reiterate that this does not apply to everyone. Especially the non-pvpers. Enjoy your personal teleporter, you earned it. Most of the people playing here aren't that bad anyway. Some of the trammies even stay and put up a good fight! Love you guys! Nothing but respect for the lot of you. I don't think less of someone who fights me and dies to me or my allies. It just means that we were prepared for a fight that you were not prepared for. It doesn't make you less of a player. Matter of fact, out of the people I respect the most on this server, most of them never set foot in fel. You don't have to pvp to be an amazing player.

     But to the small few who call themselves pvper's and hit their 'coward' macro every time a fight gets a little heated. You aren't a pk or a pvper. You're just a coward rolling with cowards. You're not even tactical in your execution. You're an embarrassment. Keep your personal teleporter and troll all you want though. I won't begrudge you for having it.  Cause when I do kill you, and i will, I'll feel that much better about it. Oh, and if you don't like what I've said to you, then feel free to rage at me anytime. You should feel perfectly safe behind the anonymity of the internet to do so. Won't even bother me. Especially since I am not at any point, nor have I ever been, afraid. So do you're worst, it won't amount to much, I assure you.

      I'd also like to point out that a few of you spend a good deal of time running in pvp. I don't think less of you for it. It's a legitimate tactic. It's annoying, but I don't lose respect for you over it. It just means that I find you annoyingly hard to kill, and that is a good thing. I'd like to think you feel the same about me. There is a topic about stone circle you should comment on if this applies to you.

      To sum this all up. I have given you a view to my insight to let you see how the personal teleporter and lack thereof has effected me. With that said, I hate that personal teleporter more than anything or anyone on this server. I despise it. I think it was a well intentioned idea, that has no place in a setting that allows for pvp. BUT! It's here. People payed money for it and feel entitled to have it, so the damage is already done. There are a million ways to fix the thing but that will not happen. The reason it will not happen is because any fix that takes place will only hurt the people that legitimately use it. The trolls will find a different way to troll. Pk's will use stealth like myself. Pvpers will start moving in larger groups and felucca will become stale as the lack of targets starts to dissipate.

     I really would like to say that the personal teleporter can be fixed and everyone will be happy by applying 'x' fix, but I think the best way to deal with it, is for everyone to sit back, relax, and just except that the damned thing exists. If you can't accept that, then oh well, it'll still be here after you are gone. At least, that's been my experience.

     

^ This. I want opinions and reason behind it... responses like ummm no.. will just be and should just be ignored. Hell make some suggestions.. it is the suggestion board. Keep balance in mind.

@ Darksilence

 Your a nice guy but please remember this:

UO Evolution Shard is a non-profit organization, directed by it's staff, supported by it's players and funded by it's donators.  All donations will be used to pay server costs, update the content and upgrade the hardware.
Legal Notice: Donations are considered gifts to the shard and are not for any tangible items or merchandise.  When you are donating to the shard you are giving money to support a hobby gaming site, not purchasing anything of value.

  If you haven't noticed those are the [RULES]... you bought/paid for nothing... you donated to the cause and were generously granted a gift of your choosing. I hate to mention it, but I am sick of others thinking they own the right to something because they donated. IMO, all you have the right to is enjoying EVO-UO they way you choose; as long as it abides by the rules.

  Exploiting to get out of PvP, in a Good versus Evil zone-- by using a donation device-- is unfair to both veterans; who own the device and use it properly, and those who don't have the luxury of the Personal Teleporter.

  Felucca is full of the most quests, special dungeon treasure chests, and richer in crafting material gains than any other facet.

  There must be risk, if there is to be any tangible type of reward. Personal Teleporters crush that risk, by turning it into a bug bite. Annoying but not much more.

  Putting a price tag on teleporting out only hurts those who used ED's to get the teleporter to avoid PvP. A legitimate reason-- to be honest-- since their fun is playing UO, and hunting monsters; not killing others.


  In Closing:

  There are plenty of possible fixes for the Personal Teleportal, but only two make sense to me.

  1)Take them away, and refund the 500 ED's to those whom have them.

  2)Make them non functional in Felucca at all [Period]


  --Sturger--


P.S. if I'm not mistaken personal teleporters were ment for peoples houses. They were not intended to be carried around.

                  {Flame On}

^ I like you already. Keep it going guys.

@ Darksilence

 Your a nice guy but please remember this:

UO Evolution Shard is a non-profit organization, directed by it's staff, supported by it's players and funded by it's donators.  All donations will be used to pay server costs, update the content and upgrade the hardware.
Legal Notice: Donations are considered gifts to the shard and are not for any tangible items or merchandise.  When you are donating to the shard you are giving money to support a hobby gaming site, not purchasing anything of value.

  If you haven't noticed those are the [RULES]... you bought/paid for nothing... you donated to the cause and were generously granted a gift of your choosing. I hate to mention it, but I am sick of others thinking they own the right to something because they donated. IMO, all you have the right to is enjoying EVO-UO they way you choose; as long as it abides by the rules.

  Exploiting to get out of PvP, in a Good versus Evil zone-- by using a donation device-- is unfair to both veterans; who own the device and use it properly, and those who don't have the luxury of the Personal Teleporter.

  Felucca is full of the most quests, special dungeon treasure chests, and richer in crafting material gains than any other facet.

  There must be risk, if there is to be any tangible type of reward. Personal Teleporters crush that risk, by turning it into a bug bite. Annoying but not much more.

  Putting a price tag on teleporting out only hurts those who used ED's to get the teleporter to avoid PvP. A legitimate reason-- to be honest-- since their fun is playing UO, and hunting monsters; not killing others.


  In Closing:

  There are plenty of possible fixes for the Personal Teleportal, but only two make sense to me.

  1)Take them away, and refund the 500 ED's to those whom have them.

  2)Make them non functional in Felucca at all [Period]


  --Sturger--


P.S. if I'm not mistaken personal teleporters were ment for peoples houses. They were not intended to be carried around.

                  {Flame On}

This is a donation server.. I have lots of donated gear. I have a teleporter, donation books -cleric etc. I am not entitled to any of it. That is the fact.. by law if we were to step into a court room... id lose my claim easy.. tis all donation. So ya lets make sure thats written in stone.. because IRL it is.

   What is there to ponder about the rule I posted? If that rule changes, well then I imagine Dante would be breaking some such rule, and the shard would go down as a result.

  I don't want the server to go down, nor am I saying Dante did anything wrong. All I am doing is responding in kind to you Allestaria.

Rules concerning what Dante and staff wish to do within there free shard can change as they please... that much is also posted on the EVO-UO Rules page. So, once again, what is your point?

  You quoted everything I posted and then wrote a sentence. WHAT? Let me break it down...

  [I will say this, every situation is not the same-- Keep that in mind--  rules change by a single conversation;  I'll let you ponder that in your head]

I will say this.. Every situation is not the same. Keep that in mind.  Rules change by a single conversation....  I'll let you ponder that in your head. 'Said by Allestaria'

Want to fix the teleporter in pvp?  Put a check on the teleporter so that when someone tries to teleport out of Fel there is a check that looks for any non guild or party member who is not stealthed.  If another player is found within 25 tiles of the person trying to teleport out then add a 15 second cast time that can be interrupted.  You move you have to restart the cast.  You get hit with a spell same thing. 


There now the P.T. doesn't work if someone is engaged or about to be. 


Now time to close this window for the last time.  So Long Personal Teleporter complaint post.