Discussion in   Help!   started     11 years ago   December 30, 2012, 10:39:45 AM   by   Lancer

On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?

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Topic :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  December 30, 2012, 10:39:45 AM

And is it normal to use close to 20 vials just for one sample? Wasted that much to get the mental from Humonculous.

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#1 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  December 30, 2012, 03:52:38 PM

Most players wont reveal the best DNA samples.  It takes a lot of trial and error to find the best combos.  There are many different styles and reasons to make many types of bios.  Do you want to ride it?  Want it for a tank?  Want a certain look?  Want the special attack/counters?  Plan out the bio before you build it...many players rush the process in their excitement and produce poor results.
 
Read the wiki carefully for tips and detailed info.  Lore all the monsters first before you try to sample.  Also high luck, high tinker skill and eating before you sample make a big dfference in the chance and quality of the DNA


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#2 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  December 30, 2012, 06:27:50 PM

Yes going through a ton of vials is all part of the struggle. I've wasted over 30 on one sample before so it does happen.
Also Dante is pretty much spot on. There are a ton of different styles of bios you can make, what it all comes down to, Animal Lore is your best friend. I will just go exploring to lore mobs that I haven't seen before, trying to find new mobs that fit well together. I do offer help and general guidance to any player that has questions about getting started in making bios, the "what to look for" and process of creating a bio. Anyone can pm or find me in game and I will gladly explain and help players get started and heading in the right dirrection.

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#3 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  December 31, 2012, 09:05:41 PM

ones I got all of the samples and put it on the set vial, I get some points to use, do I use all of them? if not how do I spread them?

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#4 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  March 21, 2013, 09:00:48 PM

60ish % slots needed to make it 3 slot
100% prowess
45-60 Mental and environmental


Thats an all around one  use only Very High Samples =)

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#5 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  March 21, 2013, 09:24:44 PM

I always spend points on prowess first.. get that to 100% then depending on how many points I have left i'll get enviro and mental up as high as I can... I never spend points on control or slots unless I have left over points then I spend on slots...  :)

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#6 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  March 24, 2013, 10:44:14 AM

With each bio its going to be different the amount of bio points you will have to spend on your bio.
Belgaron is pretty much spot on with the distribution of points. Though heres a trick I've learned from making dozens of bios. Don't simply click all the points you want to spend on one stat all at once, varry the output amoung the stats, this helps stop failed experiments. So if your adding points to Prowess and you hit a fail, don't add back to Prowess, add one to Mental or Slots, then go back to Prowess. This method has produced the least amount of fails when making bios for myself.

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#7 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  May 14, 2013, 07:35:50 AM

Is it possible to make a bio with the cu sidhes healing ability in addition to counter healing?




Also could someone go more in depth on the menu the above poster was talking about, 60% slots? what exactly is on the menu and what does it do for your final pet.


If i don't want poisoning or magery what options does that give me in other aspects of the bio in terms of being above average in other areas.

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#8 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  May 14, 2013, 11:05:15 PM

So i just did a little bit of testing and i am curious sometimes when i failed to collect a sample i would just die instantly is this common? Because if so that is friggin need to know information and should be on the wiki.

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#9 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  May 14, 2013, 11:32:18 PM

yeh it is common to die a lot while trying to get samples... even when you hide and stealth upto the mob u wanna sample it can still bring you out of hiding and kill you... crazy rat does this A LOT lol i have gone thru sooooo many vials and died sooooo many times attempting to sample that rat ! ...and sometimes you can get the sample but the mob will kill you at the same time  :o ...bio making is a time consuming and expensive process  :) but worth it in the end if you are able to make an awesome bio I spose  :)

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#10 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  May 15, 2013, 08:11:51 AM

You know i had originally planned to do the whole bio thing but after all the testing i have done i am just going to join the group of i have better things to do with my time. I don't know how any of you can actually work up the will to do all the crap involved with making a bio but i am not joining you.
Takes alot of time, patience,  gold and headaches but the results are by far worth it. There's a reason I can pull over 10mil from selling one of my bios, they are comparable to the best pets and donations. Theres alot more that goes into the entire bio process than jumping right into sampling and creating. Ive spent days testing just loreing different mobs to calculate the best results. You honestly have to have a touch of mad scientist  to be successful in making bios. The system is far deeper than most think.

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#11 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  May 15, 2013, 08:23:01 AM


The loring is not a problem with the exception of the custom mobs i know basically every creature in the game and what there rough stat estimates are, getting the right creatures is not a problem.


 It is everything else that gets on my nerves and all the hidden information that is not out there like the chance on failure that the mob will just flat out instantly kill you.

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#12 Re :   On Bios what's the best to sample for prowess and environment?
11 years ago  May 15, 2013, 08:50:14 AM

That is mainly what I was referring to as being, slightly a mad scientist.
The bio-system will at times have you pulling your hair out from consecutive death after death trying to sample your prowess. The prowess is regarded as the hardest to sample because the mob can actually hit you on a failed attempt. A prowess fail reflects the highest amount of dmg the mob can do doubled right into your face. Where as Enviro and mental do not have the retaliation on a failed attempt. We should actually be happy that only prowess has the chance to insta-kill.
In regards to the hidden information, well that's mainly due to players not wanting to give up the good tips. I could on for days with bits of hidden knowledge I have on the bio system. For example did you know the exact "timing" on when you take the sample can alter the success rates?