Discussion in   Help!   started     10 years ago   June 23, 2014, 06:33:25 PM   by   DianPK

Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?

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Topic :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  June 23, 2014, 06:33:25 PM

hey hey been years since I play UO and never did Gold Panning... anyone here does it? whats the pros? and cons? what the use? pls nd thx...

sorry if the question seems really dumb I just simply don't know of this skill

Lots of information is on the wiki, it explains the system details and rewards

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#1 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  June 24, 2014, 05:31:13 PM

 Pros = a steady supply of gold coins, and large games --for crafting with tinkering--

 Pros = Blackrock -- a material collected for wonderous items purchased from a secret purchase stone.

 Cons = GM Tinkering & Begging are needed to make Gold Pans, and you will need a steady supply of gold pans to gold pan. Ha Ha.

 Cons = Time. You will spend a lot of time moving along the shore gold panning to make a worthy profit.

 Cons = You can not gold pan AFK [which to be honest is a good thing; otherwise the economy would be broken quickly]

 Mitigation: You can usually buy gold pans from other players --I try to spend no more then 10k a gold pan; less than that is even better--

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#2 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  June 24, 2014, 05:41:37 PM

hhmmm sounds slow but  I think ill give it a try just because iv never done it... thx for the info !!!

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#3 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 07:04:49 AM

I really feel Gold Panning needs to be removed from the game.  It is against the rules to AFK gold panning, but it can be done.  I have always felt UO needs a balance of risk Vs. Reward; yet with Gold Panning there seems to be no risk.  Can someone please tell me where the risk is involved with Gold Panning?  Perhaps some nasty Elementals could spawn with the nuggets requiring the person gold panning to be alert and actually engage in the game.  I really hope that Gold Pannign is changed so that it has a great deal more risk!

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#4 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 07:30:29 AM

I really feel Gold Panning needs to be removed from the game.  It is against the rules to AFK gold panning, but it can be done.  I have always felt UO needs a balance of risk Vs. Reward; yet with Gold Panning there seems to be no risk.  Can someone please tell me where the risk is involved with Gold Panning?  Perhaps some nasty Elementals could spawn with the nuggets requiring the person gold panning to be alert and actually engage in the game.  I really hope that Gold Pannign is changed so that it has a great deal more risk!


Really? You are worried about gold panning of all things???


Umm it takes  an hour to make about 50k-100k gold with gold panning. Then you have to take out the price of the gold pan at 5k each without fail. Or upwards of 10k bought from players (cheaper from me)..


If you are so worried about this. Why are you not raising a huge stinker over champ spawns?  You can make upwards of 500k in less than 20 minutes.


Need a little bit of a refocus here Thunder.


OHHH don't forget treasure chests, sos's, t-maps.. All are much more money than gold panning.. One T-map = level deed 100k get a cloth deed they are now what 250k.. 15 minutes worth of work.


ROFL gold panning again Really??

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#5 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 07:42:04 AM

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OHHH don't forget treasure chests, sos's, t-maps.. All are much more money than gold panning.. One T-map = level deed 100k get a cloth deed they are now what 250k.. 15 minutes worth of work.

There is more money to be made gold panning than you realize, I have been told if a player does it correctly they would be the wealthiest player on the shard. the T-maps all have spawn and cannot be macro'd.   I am simply asking that there be some risk involved in gold panning.

You mention champ spawns,  there is a great deal of risk there especially in FEL.  The champs are also on a timer.

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#6 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 08:48:05 AM

Well gold panning has been toned back considerably. I pulled 4 mil in one day doing it (pre-nerf not post), but that is by far not the fastest I have ever pulled gold in a day. I have made 12 million in one day knocking out those tokuno champs that no one ever seems to want to do. I would like to see gold panning pull up other things though. Maybe even attract monsters on a higher end pull. That would be fun.

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#7 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 06:04:01 PM

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OHHH don't forget treasure chests, sos's, t-maps.. All are much more money than gold panning.. One T-map = level deed 100k get a cloth deed they are now what 250k.. 15 minutes worth of work.

There is more money to be made gold panning than you realize, I have been told if a player does it correctly they would be the wealthiest player on the shard. the T-maps all have spawn and cannot be macro'd.   I am simply asking that there be some risk involved in gold panning.

You mention champ spawns,  there is a great deal of risk there especially in FEL.  The champs are also on a timer.


You have been told. So I take it you  have not actually tried this out yourself?  Don't you think you need a little proof before you go play the blame game?  T-maps can be put into a macro. I wont get into that here. But just so you know. It can be done.  You can macro just about anything if you know what you are doing.


Now test it out. See how much money you make in 30 minutes than an hour then 2 hours etc. See if your complaint was actually warranted. 


Otherwise.. Lets not play preschool he said she said games.  I  hate when people start rambleing on and on about stuff they actually know nothing about.

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#8 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 06:19:43 PM

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You have been told. So I take it you  have not actually tried this out yourself?


I was told this by Kane so I didnt think I needed to try it out myself.

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#9 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 07:30:09 PM

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You have been told. So I take it you  have not actually tried this out yourself?

I was told this by Kane so I didnt think I needed to try it out myself.


Then what was the point of your post? Isn't posts about OMG NERF THIS is to bring it to staffs attention?  If Kane thinks gold panning needs to be nerfed he will look into it and take care of it.


So do explain why you brought it to the forums? I'm really lost now. Kane knows the numbers. He watches and ask those who he can trust for assistance.  He has been adjusting gold panning on and off thru patching trying to find the perfect stop for it.


Sooooo why?

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10 years ago  September 28, 2014, 07:56:19 PM

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You have been told. So I take it you  have not actually tried this out yourself?

I was told this by Kane so I didnt think I needed to try it out myself.


Then what was the point of your post? Isn't posts about OMG NERF THIS is to bring it to staffs attention?  If Kane thinks gold panning needs to be nerfed he will look into it and take care of it.

So do explain why you brought it to the forums? I'm really lost now. Kane knows the numbers. He watches and ask those who he can trust for assistance.  He has been adjusting gold panning on and off thru patching trying to find the perfect stop for it.

Sooooo why?


Because I feel Gold panning has zero risk yet is has huge rewards.  If this type of gold farming is allowed the server's economy could become ruined.  I don't even think the AFK pop-up gump is active with gold panning ATM.  I didnt realize I was not allowed to express an opinion on the forums.  perhaps I should consult with you before I post in the future.

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#11 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 29, 2014, 09:09:06 AM

So you are wanting to change something you have never done. 


Don't you think out of pure respect for those who do. That you should at least KNOW what you are talking about?   There is no risk in gold panning. There is no risk in mining or lumberjacking either.. So do those need to be changed as well?  There is also no risk in fishing. There is no risk in making spell books. But yet you can make a profit off of those as well.


Do you see where I am going with this. Just because there is no risk. Does not mean it needs to be nerfed.  I make more money selling runebooks in one day. Than I make gold panning. So since runebooks are ZERO risk they should be removed from the game?


So now we have that out of the way. Lets get into what would happen if gold panning was removed. Have you given a thought about where all those gems that are now needed for pet restore would come from? Cause you need I believe 25 of them to craft ONE pot.


Taking things away without thinking about it turns into what happened when pet restore got changed. Bee keeping is now pointless along with plant resources.


Be very very careful when you start screaming to get things nerfed. Especially when you have ZERO knowledge of said skills...

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#12 Re :   Gold Panning; Whats it for? Is it worth doing?
10 years ago  September 29, 2014, 11:56:38 AM

   There is no risk in gold panning. There is no risk in mining or lumberjacking either.. So do those need to be changed as well?  There is also no risk in fishing. There is no risk in making spell books. But yet you can make a profit off of those as well.


Do you see where I am going with this. Just because there is no risk. Does not mean it needs to be nerfed.  I make more money selling runebooks in one day. Than I make gold panning. So since runebooks are ZERO risk they should be removed from the game?


Be very very careful when you start screaming to get things nerfed. Especially when you have ZERO knowledge of said skills...


I feel there should be risk in resource gathering. Generally in crafting the risk involved is done during the resource gathering.  Runebooks are sold to players, not turned into NPC; no they should not be removed from the game.  I have never expressed a desire for Gold Panning to be removed, simply to have some risk attached the activity.  You are clearly of a differing opinion, that is fine.  I am still allowed to express mine.

The tone of your responses makes me harken back to Hamlet:  The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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10 years ago  September 29, 2014, 01:03:54 PM

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Generally in crafting the risk involved is done during the resource gathering.

     Actually I believe it is done during the crafting process. There is great risk/reward in using a runic item to craft. You might go through 100 charges and never get quite what you are looking for. You might spend more money in vendor upkeep than you actually make. Perhaps while we are at it we should remove vampiric embrace so there will be risk at champ spawns? Immortality seems a bit too much I'd think. Perhaps we should allow theives at brit bank? I tested a really nice npc theif recently that could wreak havoc amongst the bank sitters. He even has some funny things to say. Leaves you a sarcastic note as well ;) .

     Adding risk to every single aspect of uo is the kind of thing that i would do/be attracted to. Unfortunately, I have tried this approach already. It makes for a very empty shard, very quickly. I won't go into the history of it, but runuo is rife with examples. If gold panning is already being addressed then I'd say this is all moot until the changes are pushed through. I do believe that adding greater rewards to gold panning, post nerf, along with a possibility of risk as well could be interesting.  We could even add a creative element to it. Ever heard of the "Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine"?

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According to many versions of the tale, the mine is either cursed, or protected by enigmatic guardians who wish to keep the mine's location a secret.
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     Now how Ultima Online does that sound?

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The tone of your responses makes me hearken back to Hamlet: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

     Quoting Gertrude? There is a really good joke about shallow characters and shallow concepts that I'm going to avoid. I just want you to know that I thought it. I wish more people brought the kind of heat to the forums that Allestaria brings. It is obvious that she cares greatly for the game and I value her opinion as greatly as I do my own. (so far anyway)

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